MORE ABORIGINAL MEN AT GALLIPOLI

The list of men of Aboriginal descent who served and in some cases lost their lives at Gallipoli, compiled by David Huggonson and posted on 29 March 2014, contains the names of 32 men. A further name was added after I was contacted by the niece of Tasmanian Alfred John Hearps. Since then the Gallipoli service of twenty more men has been found bringing the total to 55.  There are likely to be more. In fact a number of others are said to have served at Gallipoli but it has not been possible to locate a service record for the men in question. In yet other cases confirmation that men suggested as serving in this campaign were in fact of Indigenous heritage has been impossible to locate. I have found too, because of its iconic place in Australian military history served in World War One, are often apt to assume it was at Gallipoli – when research can show that an individual’s service and the national consciousness, that families whether Indigenous or non Indigenous who know that one of their members was actually in the equally challenging conditions of the Western Front. The list as it now stands appears below. Names I have added to David Huggonson’s original list are shown with an asterisk. Details of the service of these men can be found in their service records, digitised on the website of the National Archives of Australia. The place name after each service number is place of birth. All men listed here are either named in the referenced listing in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Volunteers for the AIF: The Indigenous Response to World War One or will appear in a forthcoming edition. Why is it important to draw attention to these men? It’s because Aboriginal war service was ignored for so long and because showing the presence of Indigenous men in this campaign is one way of incorporating (but not assimilating) Indigenous service into the story of Australian military history and the history of Australia.

Some Men of Aboriginal Descent Who Served at Gallipoli

Compiler DAVID HUGGONSON  2014

BINDOFF, Edgar George 1720, Sydney, New South Wales

BOLTON, Alfred Frederick 682, Windsor, New South Wales

BURKE, James Ernest 529, New South Wales *

CAMERON, Alfred 1173, Meningie, South Australia

CROUGH, Kenneth 1125, Warrnambool, Victoria

DICKERSON, James 392, Gin Gin, Western Australia

DRURY, Albert Matthew 863, New South Wales *

FARMER, Larry 62, Katanning, Western Australia

FARMER, Lewis 421, Katanning, Western Australia

GOLDSPINK, William 2172, Tumbarumba, New South Wales *

HARRIS, William 2538, Wellington New South Wales *

HEARPS, Alfred John, [409] 2nd Lieutenant, Forth, Tasmania *

HOLT, Harold John 2289, Launceston, Tasmania *

HOMER, Arthur Charles 115, Bathurst, New South Wales *

HUTCHINS, Charles 307, Busselton, Western Australia

JACKSON, William John 1952, Bunbury, Western Australia

JOHNSON, Cyril Allen, 1340, Sheffield, Tasmania *

JOHNSON, Jack Roy, 1867, (served as John Rollins) Warrnambool, Victoria *

JOHNSON, Vernon Phillip, 2225, Sheffield Tasmania *

KARPANY, George 3502, East Wellington, South Australia

KELLY, Alfred William 590, Macksville, New South Wales

KIRBY, Richard Norman 2305, Dubbo, New South Wales *

LAVENDER, Andrew 285, Wellington, New South Wales *

LOCKE, Henry James 532, Waterloo, New South Wales *

MARTIN, Richard 1359, Brisbane, Queensland

MASON, Allan 1962, New South Wales *

MAYNARD, Edward  2294, Flinders Island, Tasmania

MAYNARD, Frank 1153, Flinders Island, Tasmania

MAYNARD, Leo 3992, Flinders Island, Tasmania

MCCALLUM, Arthur Edward 165, Albany, Western Australia

MCDONALD, Allan 764, Condah, Victoria

MILLER, John William 1227, Peppermint Bay, Tasmania

MUCKRAY, Hurtle 757, East Wellington, South Australia

NALEY, Charles Gordon 1310, Eucla, Western Australia

OLSEN, Andrew 736, Toowong, Queensland

OWEN, Frank Edgar 4193, Wallaroo, South Australia *

PATTERSON, Hurtle Austin 34, Townsville, Queensland

PERFECT, Joseph 200, Rockhampton, Queensland

PRIESTLY, Norman 2786, Gordonbrook Station, New South Wales

REID, John Patrick  2195  Cooma, New South Wales *

ROBINS, Alfred Arthur 1426, Junee, New South Wales

ROWAN, John 1506, Healesville, Victoria

SAYERS, Frederick Leslie 1042, Busselton, Western Australia *

SHAW, Claude 2413, Gin Gin, Western Australia *

SIMPSON, Stamford Wallace 687, Kangaroo Island, South Australia *

SKELLY, William 2933, Mount Hope New South Wales *

SLOANE, John 783, Forbes, New South Wales

SMITH, Leonard Gilmore 1303, Norwood, South Australia

STAFFORD, Charles Fitzroy 190, Mudgee New South Wales *

STOW, Albert Edward, 2162, Dungog, New South Wales

THOMPSON, Albert Victor 1644, Perth, Western Australia * 

TRIPP, Hubert Frank 1428, Victor Harbour, South Australia

WALKER, Arthur Thomas 2466, Wallaroo, South Australia

WALLER, Charles Stephen 1337, Kangaroo Island, South Australia

WRIGHT, Alfred 2017, Nyngan, New South Wales *

ZEISSER, Peter 168 Sydney, New South Wales *

Philippa Scarlett  27 May 2014

Thank you to Peter Bakker for pointing out the service of Simpson and Thompson

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23 Responses to MORE ABORIGINAL MEN AT GALLIPOLI

  1. Michelle Flynn says:

    I’m so happy to see my great uncle Charles Fitzroy Stafford acknowledged here . Thank you Philippa

  2. noel clanchy says:

    James Ernest Burke, 5th light horse ser.no 529 served and was wounded at Gallipoli He went on to Palistine Her became sergeant and came home but died in 1928. he married my aunt in Mitchell Q. I don’t know alot about him but he was well thought of. He was first in to find the bodies of a slain policeman and station manager in the carnavon ranges in the Kennif murders. he also made Sergeant in the light horse.and he was awarded a military medal. Makes my mind boggle.he definitely deserves recognition.as do they all. Noel Clanchy.

  3. Damien Seden says:

    Lance Corporal Richard Norman Kirby DCM, (Service No. 2305) 20 Infantry Battalion, another Aboriginal soldier that served at Gallipoli on the last month before the evacuation.

    Damien Seden

    • Thank you Damien. Richard Kirby is one of three brothers who served in WW1 and is already on the list of Aboriginal men who served at Gallipoli. I believe his medals have been donated to the Australian War Memorial

      • Damien Seden says:

        You welcome Just seen his name then lol, Do you also do studying of Aborginals in the 2nd World War?

        Damien Seden

  4. Joe says:

    Phillipa, thank you for your work. I have a question regarding Alfred John Hearps. The letters found on the Red Cross Missing files and the AWM service records indicate that Alfred John Hearps was the only son of Alfred and Eva Hearps from Tasmania. There is an Alfred Hearps (married to Eva Russell) who are descendent of Dolly Dalrymple in Tassie, however according to some family trees which I have found online, they had 3 children but no Alfred. Is there a major coincidence that there is another Alfred and Eva Hearps in Tassie of aboriginal descent but not from the Dalrymple line or is there something more the discover here? Just trying to confirm the connection absolutely since my great, great grandmother was sister to Alfred Hearps.

    • Thankyou for your comment Joe. My source is the comment from Ann Rutter on my original post https://indigenoushistories.com/2014/03/29/gallipoli-aboriginal-men-who-were-there/. She is Alfred Hearps’ great niece A second source is Andrea Gerrard from the University of Tasmania. Alfred Hearps’ name was published in the Hobart Mercury on 9th November 2012 in an article based on Mrs Gerrard’s research. Perhaps Ann Rutter and Mrs Gerrard can help. I am not an expert in Tasmanian Aboriginal history but have found in NSW at least that some children of marriages are not always recorded in BDM registrations. I would be interested to learn second more about this soldier’s ancestry.
      Are you a relative of Ida West whose book Pride Against Prejudice is such a valuable resource and important statement?

      Philippa

    • Lauren Tynan says:

      Hi Joe,
      Did you manage to get in touch with Anne? I am related to Anne and also to Alfred Hearps and have been doing some research on our line through dolly dalrymple. You’re right, some of the family trees online are different. Alfred Eric Hearps and Eva Russell had 3 children – Alfred John Hearps (in this list), Daphne and Jean (my great grandmother). I would love to find out more about your connections to this line. You can contact me at Lauren.tynan@gmail.com

  5. john Richards says:

    I noticed that you had problems locating some of the men’s service record. One reason for this is that they may have given a false name on enlistment. There is quite a good list of Aliases for the WW1 digger produced by the AIF ADFA project, but it is a little hard to find
    https://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/aliases.html

    • Thanks John
      The ADFA list, like the 1995 Neil Smith list published as What’s in a Name by Mostly Unsung is in many cases not so much an alias list or list of false names, as a record of name variations . Aboriginal Vincent Watley for example listed by ADFA may have used this spelling because he did not know how to spell his surname. It is recorded as both Wortley and Wartley in his brothers’ attestations but is usually spelled Wortley by this family. It is good to have these lists but they have not solved any problems for me yet.

      • John Richards says:

        Dear Philippa, Every time I find an Alias, where a man enlisted under a false name, I send an Email to Peter Dennis, with a link to the service record with both the real name and the false name. Regards John

        Sent from my iPad

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  6. Damien Seden says:

    Hi Philippa

    Are you aware of Lance Corporal George Karpany being recommended for the Victoria Cross during WW1? But instead to Victoria Cross was given to the Officer he rescued instead of him.

    Damien Seden

  7. I wasn’t aware of this. If true there should be documentation perhaps at AWM or elsewhere. I unsuccessfully checked AWM Honours and Awards. This can show recommendations as well as actual awards. Sometimes a man was recommended for one award but received a lesser one. It seems odd that he received nothing at all when a number of Aboriginal men were mentioned in despatches and received MMs and DSMs. Doreen Kartinyeri makes no mention of this in Ngarindjerri Anzacs. Perhaps Jack Pearson who has written recently on SA men can comment. Where did you hear this story and what year (and actual date) and campaign was it said to refer to? NB Karpany is sometimes spelled Carpany. Pinning the details down could be a good way of getting to the truth. The unit war diary could help and the name of the non Aboriginal man who was decorated instead.

    • Damien Seden says:

      Yeah cause you look at both Australia and Canada military history they are the only 2 commonwealth countries to not give their First Nations Soldiers the Victoria Cross which is the 2 countries National Shame.

      It’s in the book Ngarindjerri ANZACS & the facebook page Black ANZAC.

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  9. I could not make out from Black Anzac the details of the publication. The story may well be true but it would be helpful to have more documentation. It is also strange that Doreen Kartinyeri did not mention it. Other Aboriginal men were mentioned in despatches, awarded Military Medals and three received the DCM. In some cases it has been suggested that Aboriginal men received lesser awards than they should have – this is also a suggestion made about non Indigenous soldiers. I am unsure of why the gallantry of Karpany was not recognised with a lesser award. I do hope more research into this takes place – starting with the description of the incident in Bean and the name of the man who actually received the VC.

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  11. Pat Clarke says:

    Hi I am looking for descendants of Charles Hutchins 307 28th Bn from Busselton WA, I’m a descendant of the Harris family Ann and Arthur Harris and researching our Military history as my Mum ( Ella May Thompson WF41865 Private) was in the 5 Australian Advanced Workshop. I have found 16 soldiers out of the Forever Warriors book.
    Thank you
    Pat Clarke

  12. Penny Campton says:

    I am looking for relatives of Allan McDonald from Condah who is mentioned in this list. My grandmother, a McDonald, was born at Condah in the 1890s. I know nothing else about her family as she was raised by others from the age of six. She never spoke about the reasons for this to my mum, or about the people who raised her so her history was a complete mystery to her own children. She did tell me that she had good memories of playing down by the river with Aboriginal children, and told me a few words of an Aboriginal language. She was very proud of my son, whose father is an Aboriginal man whose parents were from Broome (father) and Darwin (mother), and he was the only one of all her grandchildren whose photo she had on display in the nursing home she lived in for the last five years of her life. My son was about two when the photo was taken and wearing a big hat with the land rights badge on it.

  13. Noelle Kennedy says:

    “Men from Warangesda or with Warangesda connections volunteered for World War One. James Smith, Walter Bright, Joe Gotch, Thomas Lyons, Tom and Dick McGuinness, Alex Little, Arthur Weston, Allan Gowans, David Kennedy and John Heland all volunteered for service with the first AIF as did John and Duncan Ferguson, two sons of William Ferguson. David Kennedy over 40 years old, John Heland and Duncan Ferguson did not serve overseas, Dick McGuinness lost his life. The others returned to Australia, in Walter Bright’s case after a period in a German prisoner of war camp. John Ferguson was awarded the Military Medal for gallantry”

    My Name is Noelle Kennedy, i am looking to get more information of “David Kennedy”

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